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kzucker
07-24-2004, 11:05 PM
"It's the start-up strength of the French I Cav Corps (Latour-Maubourg)
in Leipzig Scenario that I don't agree with. They should be higher.
"On the French Organization Display, I Cav Corps starts with 3
strength points (3,000 men) in Leipzig Scenario (beginning at 26-27
September). In Appendix of the Scenario Folder, page 40, there is a
table--Strength of French Army at the End of September,1813, showing
1st Cav Corps strength at 6,000 men; all other cavalry units start-up
strength is roughly the same as those in the above table."
- David Chiu

Working out the Orders of Battle for the French and other armies was a massive undertaking; it literally took months of research. Unlike the brief and decisive campaigns of earlier years, this one had huge armies made up of detachments from here and there. Since I no longer have my research files for Struggle of Nations, I refer you to, "Napoleon's Grande Armee of 1813," by Scott Bowden. (This book was not yet published in 1980 when the game was designed.) I thought it would be easy to look up the I Reserve Cavalry Corps and find the strength. However, this very exhaustive book doesn't give a strength for that date. This means that the strength must be calculated. All the strengths will have to be looked at again in the light of Mr. Bowden's research.

Anyone with a copy of the book will see that some brigades and regiments were detached from the main body of the corps. My guess is that the discrepancy in the strength (3,000 vs 6,000) is because part of the corps was detached at the end of September. The Corps had 6,480 men at Leipzig, so other troops had rejoined.

daniel C
10-02-2005, 11:03 AM
Kevin
I meet problems with struggle of nations siege rules
its said that a garrison with 4 SP or less must surrender.
But at the beginnig of spring scenario, Magdeburg and Wittemberg citadels have less than this number and they are assieged.
does this mean that they must surrender? I don't have see errata about this question
daniel

kzucker
10-06-2005, 06:40 PM
Yes, that has to be fixed. Mikolaj Lenczewski is working on the problem. Here is his most recent email...

I do not know if those fortress were easily to be taken. I read only about
Zamosc Fortress in Poland and it was defending quite long time (surrendered
after Leipzig defeat). I am briefing through Torgau, Magdeburg etc. citadels
plans and they look nice.

I think those citadels were hardly to be taken in fast-attack, there was no
determination on allied side to take them in rash, rather to take by
starvation and informing about Napoleons defeats.

I propose a 'table' for citadel surrender connected with morale tracks of
both armies. Allied player rolls for surrender and add modifier of both
armies morale. So he should have very very very little chance to take
citadel if Allied morale is +1 and French 0-neutral or Allied neutral and
French -1 and when French has -1 and Allied +1 (total +2 to roll) some
bigger chance, but still very low. In reality those citadels have surrender
when Allied army was at Rhine...

BTW here is part of Spandau citadel - nice picture -
http://www.mars.slupsk.pl/fort/grafika/ts/ts_z1.jpg

I was thinking and maybe something like that...
Every turn of siege, Allied players rolls three dice. The modifier is
current allied morale subtracted by french morale. So from - 3 to +2. If he
has rolled 18 then the citadel loss 1SP, if he has rolled 19 the citadels
loss 2SP, if he has rolled 20 or more the citadels surrender.
Probability is very low I think.

Question is if the citadel with 1SP could defend still ? Maybe yes, but add
+1 to this surrender roll ?

best,
Nico

Nico[PL]
10-10-2005, 10:44 AM
In the end I propose Kevin,

Siege table
roll every turn of siege
modifier - from French Morale subtract Allied Morale.
So if French Morale is -1 and Allied +1 then it is -1-(+1) = -2

Modifier can be from +3 to -2

Roll two dices
2-12 no effect
13 garrison losses 1SP
14 garrison 2SP

Garrison surrender when it drops to 1SP or 0 SP.

What do You think Kevin?

kzucker
10-10-2005, 02:00 PM
Nico-

I like it. It is simple. Of course, it needs testing.